Sunday, October 16, 2011

SEOUL - tips for couple travelling with infant

Yehaa!!

We managed to visit Seoul from 6th to 14th October 2011 and we went there with our daughter who is just 16 months old. Yup, no pre-arrange ground trips, no guide and we were there just 3 of us armed with the latest subway map and maps found and collected from numerous information desk available throughout Seoul. Our study on the routes took us back a year ago and we collected information mostly from blogs on the internet.

Korea for Muslim - without travel guides and pre-arrange ground tours will be somehow challenging, the only place in Seoul where halal food are easily available is in Itaewon which pressing intensively to the deepest pocket. We tried once - 2 sets of Korean authentic Bulgogi and such and it cost us 27k (approx. MYR 70) for each meal. That cost will be so decent looking at the set that we had. As Itaewon is somehow far from our lodging, we resorted to eggs - 3k for 10 (almost MYR 10 or MYR1 for each egg) and pre-packed instant rice easily available at GS25 or 7-11 for about KWN 1k each. We have prepared our self with canned food (brought from Malaysia) ie. Sardine (Adabi brand preferred - taste good and without that fishy smell), instant curry Yeos, we got 3 canned, raw rice - for our daughter's porridge and 10 packets of instant noodles. While in Korea if you always converted how much you spent if its in MYR, you wont be able to buy anything as the standard of living is so high and a bottle of coke - 1.5L cost MYR 7 as compared to MYR 2.5 we have here. We stay in a apartel type lodging comes with its own kitchenette and hot plate. We cook most of our meal, and eat just bread when we were out for tour.

Food is one thing, the other will be the mode of transportation. Thank goodness, Seoul has 1 of the most efficient public transport and compared to bus we do most of our tour using their great subways. Seoul subways are mostly operated by Seoul Metro and is a mix of old and new lines. Other train services are operated by Korail and those rails network runs mostly outside Seoul. All subways/trains services use T-money as a mode of payment and it was very convenient. There was never been an incidence where problem occur and I couldn't enter. I experience once in KL when I tried to use the Touch n Go and it failed. I spent 23KWN for the subway and that was an extensive travelling for a week plus rail service to Gapyeong for Nami Island, their subways are really cheap. One thing that I think is less efficient is their transfer line, most lines will intersect with one another at numerous points but the walking to the transfer line is so exhausting. With stroller that we were carrying, there were so many instances which we have to carry the stroller up and down the stairways just because elevators are not available. The following are my general tips for those planning to visit the vibrant Seoul with their little one.

Stroller on AAX KUL to ICN

My advised is bring your stroller. Preferably the easy to carry and stroll around. I'm using Maclaren triumph and it weight just 4 kilos. So far it really heavy duty, we move around Seoul using this and it pass all the road conditions Seoul has to offer. Stroller bound for ICN will be tagged during check-in at the baggage drop counter and collected at the baggage carousel. I think the general rule is that, stroller that is tagged will join the baggage at the carousel and stroller given a pass at the entrance of the departure hall will have to be collected somewhere upon arrival at the destination (most Indonesian destination).

When I was in Seoul temperature went as low as 15 degrees during day time. Using stroller like mine will mean that your baby is facing the cold wind first hand. My child experience dry lips and its good to prepare a hood like apparatus just to keep your child away from the cold wind. I experience dry lips also and my lips just turn to normal 2 weeks after coming back. it's very painful.

Pre-book your seat

Not many people welcome child on board. They are considered menace and disturbed the peaceful conditions inside the airplane. I think bringing an infant on board is a bliss. 1st - nobody would like to sit beside you - they'll move to other seat if available, sparing the 3 seats just for you, 2nd - if you travel with premium airlines chances are - front seat with extra leg room, but not in AAX the most you can do is to book seat just behind the hot seat (empty during our flight) and consider having a close distance with the loos.

Travellers with infant may check in online

This is new. When i bring my d/ter to Indonesia last April, infant cannot be checked in online, but when i tried ICN, things change. Perhaps since check in at counter will involve extra fee.

Muslim - try Coop Residence

My d/ter only eats porridge with carrot and soup. I found it expensive to buy rice in Seoul so i meticulously bring an exact quantity of uncooked rice and chicken cube stocks. Minus the carrot she ate the porridge and went well. As halal food could be an issue in Seoul we brought ourselves instant mee (fried mee - can last long), few cans of chicken curry, sardines, instant congee and some fried anchovies. The hotel that we stayed has microwave oven and stove. We also bring a cooking pot (small size). We save a lot from cooking our own meal. We normally eat before we went out and eat just bread on tour. On our trip to nami, we even packed some spagetti and enjoy picnicking ala backpack.

Korean elderly are child friendly

Same in vietnam, Korean elderly love child very much. They wont speak English to you but sometime it's quite fascinating to see how caring they are with your child as they try to ask you to do something in Korean. Sign language is the language in Korea! just do what they ask you to do, perhaps they think the way you carry the child is not right to them, DO IT. There are so many elderly in Korea.

'Wrap' your child

I enjoy Korean weather. Cold but bearable. Wrap your child extra as the cold weather may affect the health.

9 comments:

  1. hi.. thanks for the tips.. we are going to Seoul next week with our 18mo daughter and this entry helps a lot! i was just thinking whether it is wise for us to bring along the stroller and ur entry answered the question. thanks!

    -msswanz-

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  2. Hai msswanz!

    Thanks for dropping by. You'd probably has returned from Seoul and hope the tips have helped you in some way while you were there with your little one. I understand that stroller may become one of the biggest issue we faced while travelling but having one will always helped. Hope you had 'enjoyed' carrying the stroller ups and down the Seoul subway staircases and trust me, it eliminated some of our most stubborn fat hehe. Have a blast and enjoy travelling with your little one..

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  3. yes we safely came back from Seoul a couple of weeks ago.. :) the stroller did help in a way, if not for our little one, its good to carry around all our stuffs during the journey.. however, i do think that a little research on the places that u intend to visit will be quite useful as not all places are suitable for stroller use. i.e: crowded places such as markets and shopping areas and also places which requires you to climb flights of stairs such as the N Seoul Tower. and owh yes, we often took the cab when we take the stroller out with us, so it did not help much with our stubborn fat.. haha.. :D

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    1. Hai msswanz, glad you have came back. Seoul is a blast isn't? My apology for not putting in 'special' tips for that Namsan climb. We were sweating the time we went up to the cable car station. We only realized the reclining lift car on our way down (towards Sinsaege) hehe, but the chilling weather helps in a way. Did you manage to find the famous brooch outlets in Namdaemun? We managed to find the place by local helps, but of course with much hand language haha. My wife misses doota badly, hope to be able to return to Seoul soon, thanks for the update..

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  4. oh yes.. seoul was indeed a blast.. oh, i miss seoul! hope ill be able to return one day. :) next time ill include jeju on the itinerary..

    our next trip would be to Bandung, thanks to your entries about bandung.. i dont know why, but somehow ive booked an accommodation at Jl. Aceh.. do u think its too far from where all the excitements are?

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    1. Hye msswanz, glad to hear from you. I think Jl. Aceh is quite central in Bandung (base on my previous study) but i'm not so sure what to expect from the area. I normally stay at either Arion or Asmila. Both are a bit pricey but it worth every penny. Arion is very very close to Pasar Baru, you can even walk there in less than 5 minutes (depend on your speed actually - peace)and there is also one Kartika Sari outlet nearby. So, if you arrive in BDO late in the afternoon, perhaps staying in Arion will help cut the cost of the supir. Another good point is that Arion is providing free airport pick up, good for budget conscious people like me haha.

      Besides Arion, another hotel that I really recommend is Asmila. The location make it interesting. It is located right in front of Rumah Mode. My advise is don't waste time going in every FO in Jl Dago. Rumah Mode got everything in Jl Dago plus more varieties. Do come early because good items are snapped in no time, that's why we stayed in Asmila haha.

      If you wish to hire a driver these two numbers might be useful: Mas Doni = +6281221665522 or Mas Dzul = +6281395454223. In my recent trip last April, our driver was Mas Doni, young and funny guy who talked non stop from Jakarta to BDO (return). Both are based in BDO and you may negotiate their daily rate. If you need assistance in negotiating, do let me know, i'll see what I could do. Enjoy your trip..

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  5. Thanks, this helps a lot! i will definitely give them a tinker. how much is the acceptable daily rates if i may ask? for a first timer, i think our itinerary will cover the usual 1 day sightseeing to tangkuban perahu, etc and then probably for the rest of the not so many days; shop till we drop i guess :P

    i should've asked you sooner.. its already a done deal with amaroosa hotel bandung, Jl Aceh.. and luckily they also provide free airport shuttle.. phew~~

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    1. No problem msswanz, glad for being able to help. The daily rate will normally starts at around 350k but sometime driver may ask for 400k all inclusive. They normally won't asked for a tip, but it's good to appreciate them and their kindness. Just for comparison, the last time I went there, I asked the driver to fetch me up from CGK to BDO return and it was 450k one way, so the maximum I supposed should be around 350k to 400k should you have already landed in Bandung. On the Tangkuban Perahu side, the place was crowded the time I went there and there were many touts haggling around offering so many services from taking photo to escorting you down to the crater. They were so persistent (they will follow you around) and to me, a bit nuisance given the fact that i was carrying my little daughter at that time. We spent only 30 minutes there (even the journey from town to the crater took almost 2 hours..) and went down after 2 quick photos. If you are going there for 4 days, then, the trip to Tangkuban worth the time spend but if it less, then you'll be spending your time on the road rather on the rest of the excitement. Have a terrific stay there and do check PJV, they have a good mothercare outlet there..

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  6. i know this is looooongggg overdue.. but, thx for the tips. we did not get to go to tangkuban perahu during our trip there as there was some extraordinary sulfur activity. so we just stayed in the city and focused on shopping, shopping and shopping! :)

    i'd have to say, u were right abount bandung. i fell in luv instantly and will definitely return one day!

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